eMails March

2001 04 23

For participants in the discussion

of the proposal by the Energy Merchant Division of Cinergy

to locate a 1-Billion-BTU combustion Electric Generating Plant

at 3000 Kenton Lands Road in Erlanger, Kenton County, KY.

This represents a compendium of communications to and from john@ncad.net.

This document is primarily directed to:

Permit # V-00-053

John Hornback, Director

Kentucky Division for Air Quality

James E. Bickford, Secretary

Cabinet for Natural Resources and Environmental Protection

Governor Paul Patton

Commonwealth of Kentucky

Regarding public considerations and private comment

applicable to this application for Permit.

This document is maintained at the web site ncad.net/CinerNo/eMails.htm

Color Code

Cinergy

General Electric

Kentucky

Erlanger

Crestview Hills (CVH)

Jon Long

External or Unknown

John Schmidt

Delimiting Headers

eMail divisions

Begin___________________________________________________________________________________

1. Mar 05 11:46am from Cinergy

John,

FYI.

Tom

Tom Chaney

Environmental Coordinator

Business Development Support

Generation Resources EX510

139 East Fourth Street, PO Box 960

Cincinnati, Ohio 45201

Phone:(513) 287-2672 Pager :1-888-541-2835

Mobile Phone: (513) 659-5538 Fax (513) 287-3464

-----Original Message-----

From: Funke, John

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:01 PM

To: Bloemer, John; Chaney, Tom; Hoyos, Sergio; Huff, Bernie; Whitehead,

Robert; Gambill, Barbara; Carlyle, Tom

Subject: Erlanger Permit to Install

Attached for your review and comment is the draft Erlanger Permit to

Install. Please provide your comments to me by Wednesday, February 28, 2001.

If you would like, we could conduct a conference call to discuss the

permit contents prior to the informational meeting Tom Chaney has scheduled

in Erlanger on February 22. I would suggest Wednesday, Feb 21 at 10:00 am,

but I am open to other times and dates. Please let me know.

If you should have any questions regarding the permit, please call me

at 513-287-3821.

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----

From: Ben.Markin@mail.state.ky.us [mailto:Ben.Markin@mail.state.ky.us]

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:35 AM

To: jfunke@cinergy.com

Subject: re: request for permit copy

<<capital D-53275 permit.doc>> <<53275 N-AD rev.doc>>

Ben Markin

Kentucky Division for Air Quality

Phone: 502-573-3382

Fax: 502-573-3787

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2. 2001 Mar 06 10:07am to Cinergy Chaney

Tom,

It was good to meet you last night at Dixie High School.

Thank you for speaking with me and providing these files enabling my belated self-education on this proposal affecting my family and my community.

I am a developer and aligned with efforts to enable responsible world building.

Unless convinced otherwise, I assume Cinergy has alternatives for locating the needed generation.

It appears that an old zoning designation has outlived its justification in a small, thin, between-the-cities strip only suited for well-contained, light industry due to its proximity to increasing residential value. Please accept that the Library is the death knell for Cinergy expansion. I hope your corporate management recognize the futility in pursuing this abomination to the very heart of Northern Kentucky.

I stand with you in lending my expertise and resources enabling your proper allocation of this generation plant. Thank you for the opportunity to further discuss this endeavor.

Sincerely,

john

2001 03 01

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3. Mar 06 4:47pm

2001 03 06

Members of Council

The Friendship City of Erlanger, KY

Re: Cinergy Power Plant Abomination

Marc Otto, Mayor

and CouncilMembers:

Jim Burger

Kevin Burke

Jim Gronefeld

Paul Hahn

Keith Henry

Bill Howard

Vicki Kyle

John Dunhoft

Thomas Rouse

David Smith

Pat Suedkamp

Ken Yaden

Dear Mayor and CouncilMembers:

To facilitate our discussion regarding the proposal to locate a 100 MegaWatt Power Plant in Erlanger, less than 1000 feet from the Baptist Village and the proposed Kenton County Library, i offer these facts and comments for your consideration.

Two power generators are proposed:

each: General Electric (Schenectady, NY) PG6581B

Electric Output 42.1 MW

Heat Output 448 MBtu/hr

Exhaust 1,158,000 lb/hr

Exhaust Components: lb/hr

Carbon DiOxide

Water

Byproducts

Contaminants

Imagine a typical, hot, sticky, summer day in Erlanger, hoping the Air Pollution Index is not exceeded.

Now invite a service to belch out double-barrel, fiery streams, from 50-foot smokestacks, like massive firehoses of hot, steamy water, 1 million pounds every hour, from 7:00am to 11:00pm.

This occurs within sight, smell, and feel of our new Kenton County Public Library, our SilverLake recreational playfields and the home of many of our elderly.

This abomination is not acceptable to Erlanger. We expect our leaders will properly defend the Friendship City from the steam-roller of a multi-billion dollar global energy provider, with clearly other alternatives for locating such a factory.

Included is an Excel spreadsheet providing more detailed numbers describing the local impact of this proposal which is moreover an indefensible affront to our neighbors closely bordering this legacy thin-strip "industrial" zone, clearly intended for Well-Contained light industry and commercial applications consistent with the predominantly residential and recreational uses.

For reasons of public safety, health and welfare of residents and users of the afftected area, and even avoidance of City liability, we expect our leaders to deny the temptation of bribery and pursue the noble course of defending our fair community.

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration.

P.S.

Is this matter urgent?

Absolutely.

A permit has been issued by the state of Kentucky, department of Environmental Protection, and the only public hearing occurred last night with no attendence by official Erlanger.

Within 30 days, the final permit will be issued by the United States Environmental Protection Agency

if there is inadequate expression of indignation by responsible leaders

to this abomination to the heart of Northern Kentucky.

Respectfully serving,

john

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4. Mar 06 5:02pm from Erlanger CouncilMember Rouse

Dear John: I received your e-mail and appreciate the input. When we spoke

yesterday, I believed we were still fighting the zoning issue - I learned on

later inquiry that the city attorneys for both Erlanger and Crestview Hills

had concluded that cities may not regulate a public utility via zoning, so

that we do not have that avenue of attack. All the city can do, apparently,

is exert the power of persuasion. We have a citizens committee at work, which

includes at least one member of city council - Pat Suedkamp - to attempt to

resolve issues identified to date. Have you spoken with Patty? The committee

also has representatives of the library board, the Baptist Home, and the Long

family. I think Crestview Hills is also represented.

I told you that personally I am not in favor of the plant. It

is my belief that a majority of Council feels the same way. Council may not,

however, have any say in the final decision. The Ky Public Service Commission

seems to be the entity in charge. I'll report as I learn more.

By the way, i read the 'promo' on your business contained in

the e-mail. In plain English, what is it that you do??? Sorry to be so

technologically illiterate. TOM

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5. Mar 06 8:37pm to leaders: US, KY, Kenton County, Erlanger, etc.

2001 03 06

Honorable Leaders

serving Kentucky Communities

Erlanger

Crestview Hills

Crescent Springs

Lakeside Park

Edgewood

Fort Mitchell

Re: Proposed Cinergy Power Plant Abomination

Two power generators are proposed:

each: General Electric (Schenectady, NY) PG6581B

Electric Output 42.1 MW

Heat Output 448 MBtu/hr

Exhaust 1,158,000 lb/hr

Exhaust Components: lb/hr

Carbon DiOxide 636,900

Water 521,100

Byproducts 250

Contaminants 100

Pounds per Hour !!!

Since this is a "peaking" station, it comes on when electrical demand is highest, when air-conditioning use is highest (when the air is least absorbent, and when power generation is least efficient).

Imagine a typical, hot, sticky, summer day in Northern Kentucky, hoping the Air Pollution Index is not exceeded, avoiding needed exercise because of the harm to respiration.

This occurs within sight, sound, smell, and feel of our new Kenton County Public Library (the state's most active), Dixie High School, Caywood Elementary School, SilverLake recreational playfields, the homes of many of our elderly, and many homes and businesses breathing the air swelled by this mis-located, unwanted waste.

This abomination is not acceptable in the heart of residential Northern Kentucky. We expect our leaders will properly defend our lives from the steam-roller of a multi-billion-dollar, global energy provider, with clearly other alternatives for locating such a factory.

Included is an Excel spreadsheet providing more detailed numbers describing the local impact of this proposal which is moreover an indefensible affront to neighbors closely bordering this legacy, thin-strip "industrial" zone, clearly intended for well-contained, light industry and commercial applications consistent with the predominantly residential, recreational, and agricultural uses.

For reasons of public safety, health and welfare of residents and users of the afftected area, and even avoidance of public liability, we expect our leaders to deny the temptation of bribery and pursue the noble course of defending our right to a safe environment.

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration.

P.S.

Is this matter urgent?

Absolutely.

A permit has (unbelievably) been issued by the state of Kentucky, Cabinet for Natural Resources and Environmental Protection (that's what it says), and the only public hearing occurred last night with no attendence by official Erlanger, the boundary for which barely contains this site at its NE edge.

Within 29 days, the final permit will be issued by the United States Environmental Protection Agency

if there is inadequate action by responsible leaders

to the threat of this abomination in the heart of Northern Kentucky.

Respectfully serving,

john schmidt

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6. Mar 07 10:41 to Wayne Onkst, Kenton Co. Lib. cc: Jon Long, Crestview Hills Administrator Celarek

Wayne,

Thank you for calling. Here are some letters and documents hopefully assisting your urgent action in defense of this abomination.

Tom Chaney of Cinergy reported on Monday to me by phone that the intended equipment,

also named on the Draft Approved Permit Pg 4 of 28

is GE6581B, product information provided at:

http://www.gepower.com/publications/gers/GER3567h.pdf

for the Adobe PDF file

providing the basis for the numeric details in the following spreadsheet i refined beyond that presented Monday at Dixie High School.

I presented my opposition to Erlanger Council last night providing the Ciner10.xls and the senrep02.doc in hard copy after eMailing Mayor Otto and CouncilMembers the following similar version:

The following letter was eMailed (perhaps unsuccessfully in some cases, notably Lucas who may have the most influence regarding USEPA final approval) to responsible leaders in Northern Kentucky.

Jon Long is assembling a meeting ASAP including Draud, Westwood, et al.

We should also coordinate with Kevin Celarek, City Admin at Crestview Hills,

and enlist other affected communities.

Respectfully serving,

john

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7. Mar 07 1:18pm to Kenton Lib, CVH Celarek cc: Long, Erlanger Council

Wayne and Kevin,

You may find downloadable documents supporting our efforts at: www.ncad.net.

Click News, then ?Power.

GODspeed.

john

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8. Mar 07 11:31pm from Erlanger Suedkampe

DEAR JOHN.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW PERSONALLY I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME OUT OF

YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE TO RESEARCH THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM OF THE CINERGY PROJECT.

I ONLY WISH MORE CITIZENS WOULD BECOME MORE INVOLVED. TOM ROUSE CALLED ME

TODAY AND ADVISED ME THAT IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO MOVE ON THAT A

PURCHASE OF 2 ACRES FROM THE LONG'S WOULD BE NECESSARY AND THEY HAVE BEEN

UNABLE TO COME TO "ANY" AGREEMENT. IT SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH (PRAISE GOD)

THAT IT WILL "NEVER" BECOME A REALITY DUE TO AS IT SEEMS, A LACK OF LAND TO

PROCEED.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT. SOMETIMES IT'S VERY

LONELY BEING A COUNCILPERSON WITH THE LACK OF CITIZEN INPUT.

CORDIALLY,

PATTY

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9. Mar 08 05:37

Patty,

Can it really be so easy?

Although i can least afford this diversion from business, i will always respond to an important need otherwise unmet. Looking forward to sleeping better!

Thank you for your persistence. After the integrity of my report was questioned, i was disappointed in the Mayor's suppression of my right to answer that question.

I am blessed with an extraordinary education, and can apply focused study when needed.

Please let me know when i can be helpful again.

I look forward to working with you again.

Sincerely,

john

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10. Mar 08 10:13

JOHN THANKS FOR CALLING. I JUST GOT A CALL FROM SENATOR WESTWOOD AND HE SAID HE WOULD HELP IF HE COULD. HE GAVE ME DICK ROEDINGS NUMBERS SINCE HE REPRESENTS THAT PART OF ERLANGER. SO I HAVE CALLED TOM ROUSE TO SET UP A CALL TO REP ROEDING ON FRIDAY. WHEN TIM CALLS TO CONFIRM I WILL CONTACT YOU.

THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT.

JON LONG

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11. Mar 12 08:06 to Jon Long

Jon,

What's the word?

Haven't from anybody except Patty Suedkampe Thursday.

Thanks for an update.

john

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12. Mar 13 08:39

john thanks for asking. the meeting went well. i do not know what the

cinergy people are going to do. we expressed our concerns. it appears the

cinergy group is approved to do something in that area. the ky regulators do

not see a problem, but i could be wrong. i will be getting a phone call from

someone in their real estate department. they need about 2 to 4 acres to

make this thing work. it appears the city of erlanger is in favor, and i

don't know if they will try something to force this issue. i hope not. but

we expressed concerns. dr kinmen and john gabue (kenton county library)

attended.

jon long

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13. Mar 13 3:23pm to Community Press: Juli Hale, Dave N., Bill Cusack

Hello Juli,

Would you call about the most recent Erlanger Council meeting (2001 March 06) coverage?

Thank you, sincerely,

john schmidt

President, NCAD Corporation

463 Erlanger Rd

Erlanger, KY 41018

859 727-9999

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14. Mar 13 4:23pm to KY Post Kerry, Community Press Bill Cusack, Cincinnati Enquirer News

2001 03 13

Honorable Leaders

serving Kentucky Communities

Erlanger

Crestview Hills

Crescent Springs

Lakeside Park

Edgewood

Fort Mitchell

(Urgent!!) Proposed Cinergy Power Plant Abomination

More details and source documents at: http://www.ncad.net News ?Power

Power generation is based on combustion of methane gas. If the gas is pure, and the air is pure, and combustion is perfect, the result is simply Hot Carbon Dioxide and Hot Water. But, of course, the air and the gas are not pure, and combustion is incomplete, and so there are impurities and byproducts.

Identified in the Permit already granted by the State of Kentucky:

two power generators are proposed:

each: General Electric (Schenectady, NY) Model PG6581B

Electric Output 42.1 Million Watts

Heat Output 448 Million Btu/hr

Exhaust 1,158,000 lb/hr

Exhaust Components: lb/hr

Carbon DiOxide 636,900

Water 521,100

Byproducts 250

Contaminants 100

Pounds per Hour !!!

Since this is a "peaking" station, it comes on when electrical demand is highest, when air-conditioning use is highest, when the air is least absorbent, and when power generation is least efficient. As efficiency declines, byproducts increase: Carbon Monoxide, Nitrous Oxides, Sulfur Dioxide, Ozone, and a plethora of Carcinogens including formaldehyde, benzene, etc.

Imagine a typical, hot, sticky, summer day in Northern Kentucky, hoping the Air Pollution Index is not exceeded, avoiding needed exercise because of the harm to respiration.

Now invite a service to belch out double-barreled, fiery 1000° streams, from 50-foot smokestacks, like massive firehoses of hot, steamy water, over 1 million pounds every hour, from 7:00am to 11:00pm. Enough heat to warm a 340-acre house in the coldest winter -- all spewing out of 2 smokestacks in residential Northern Kentucky.

On our web, ncad.net, is an Excel spreadsheet providing more detailed numbers describing the local impact of this proposal which is moreover an indefensible affront to neighbors closely bordering this legacy, thin-strip "industrial" zone, clearly intended for well-contained, light industry and commercial applications consistent with the predominantly residential, recreational, and agricultural uses.

For reasons of public safety, health and welfare of residents and users of the affected area, and even avoidance of public liability, we expect our leaders to deny the temptation of bribery and pursue the noble course of defending our right to a safe environment.

Is this matter urgent?

Absolutely.

A permit has (unbelievably) been issued by the state of Kentucky, Cabinet for Natural Resources and Environmental Protection (that's what it says). The only public hearing occurred 2001 March 05 when more than 20 professionals and residents of Crestview Hills spoke admirably against this clear and imminent danger to residential health in Northern Kentucky.

By the end of March, the final permit will be issued by the United States Environmental Protection Agency

if there is inadequate action by responsible leaders to the threat of this abomination in the heart of Northern Kentucky.

What can you do? Send your comments and outrage to your Representatives in Kentucky and to Rep Ken Lucas and Senator Jim Bunning, and copy to:

John Hornback Director

Permit Number V-00-053

Division for Air Quality

803 Schenkel Lane

Frankfort, KY 40601-1403

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration.

Respectfully serving,

john schmidt

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15. Mar 15 11:42 to Erlanger Rouse

Tom,

It appears the critical issues are legal.

You are in the right business.

Thank you for calling when you can today.

Sincerely,

john

727-9999

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16. Mar 24 4:04pm to GE affiliate

Vern et al:

I am assessing a proposal by Cinergy to install 2 units GE PG6581B in Northern KY.

Would appreciate discussion on efficiency and thermal considerations.

Thank you, sincerely,

john schmidt

Pres, NCAD Corporation

859 727-9999

___________________________________________________________________________________

17. Mar 25 8:05pm to Meteorologist info@Wunderground.com

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(2) exact analysis of air in Northern KY, including accurate trace amounts for pollutants.

Thank you, sincerely,

john

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18. Mar 26 12:06 midnight to Community Press, KY EPA. cc:NKU ERMC, Long, Erlanger Council & Admin

2001 03 26

Community Recorder Northern Kentucky Kenton County

Letter to the Editor

Thank you for your community service publishing the two-part series about the proposal by Cinergy Capital and Trading to locate a power plant in the midst of residential Northern Kentucky, closely upwind from Crestview Hills and Lakeside Park, but also affecting Edgewood, Fort Mitchell and Crescent Springs. In stillness, inversions and southwesterly winds, Erlanger residents would also be affected by the 1000° toxic, carcinogenic exhaust from the proposed, improperly-located summertime inferno. Thousands of active, young people, within 1/2 mile of this abomination, must not be condemned to pained and shorter lives by breathing the proposed pollution on ball fields, in schools and in library visits.

While Cinergy describes this as "mini", the permit (already tentatively issued) allows the hourly consumption of 1 Billion BTUs of energy in order to produce 100 Million Watts of electricity (projected output is 84.2MW). This is BIG if you live within a mile of the proposed inferno! While consuming 170,000 pounds of Oxygen per hour from our shared ground-level pool, exhausted wasted heat would warm a 214-acre winter house while spewing 107,000 pounds of water into a local atmosphere already at over 92% relative humidity. It would take the volume of air in over 3 billion Cinergy Stadiums to absorb one hour of water output! In addition, 117,000 pounds of carbon dioxide, and 500 pounds of noxious oxides and carcinogens would spew hourly, 16 hours a day, May through September, when we are already frustrated restricting our much needed exercise to protect respiration.

While it is unknown exactly what ground-level impact this exhaust will have, we are reminded by the National Weather Service: "Inversion- An increase in temperature with height. The reverse of the normal cooling with height in the atmosphere. Temperature inversions trap atmospheric pollutants in the lower troposphere, resulting in higher concentrations of pollutants at ground levels than would usually be experienced."

While we clearly understand the basis for Cinergy's interest in this location, we must ask Cinergy to reconsider alternative locations it admits could even make use of the unwanted heat that is only wasted here. This legacy strip of non-residential zoning is only appropriate for well-contained, commercial, institutional or recreational use. The proposed inferno is not compatible with the new $7M Kenton County Public Library, the state's most active branch, and the centerpiece of potential upscale development of truly benign impact providing greater revenues to the City of Erlanger. How dare Cinergy describe its proposal as benign! To say that "emissions will be barely visible" is a stupid insult.

Both Cinergy and GE are valued customers and we would prefer not offend them. But our commitment is first to our neighbors who deserve to know the magnitude of this "mini" in order to reject this inappropriate exercise of power.

More and accurate details (based on data provided by Cinergy and General Electric Power Systems, Schenectady, NY, makers of the proposed Gas Turbines PG6581B) are available at www.ncad.net, carefully updated since Part 1 of your series. Click on News, then ?Power. Calculations are in the downloadable Excel spreadsheet ciner14.xls.

The deadline is March 29!! Today!! What can you do? Express your outrage now to your state Representatives in Kentucky; and to US Representatives, since final approval is by the US EPA Region 4 Office in Atlanta. In GOD we trust. Copy your letters to:

John Hornback, Director Honorable Ken Lucas Honorable Jim Bunning

Permit Number V-00-053 US Representative US Senator

Division for Air Quality 277 Buttermilk Pike 316 Hart Senate Office Bldg

803 Schenkel Lane Fort Mitchell, KY 41017 Washington, DC 20510

Frankfort, KY 40601 859 426-0080 202/224-4343

john.hornback@mail.state.ky.us Fax: 202/228-1373

kenlucas@mail.house.gov jim_bunning@bunning.senate.gov

Respectfully serving

john schmidt, Master of Science 1985, U. Cincinnati College of Engineering

john@ncad.net

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Editor: Please do not publish: 859 727-9999

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19. Mar 26 09:46

john i will try and get back to you this week. i have not heard from the

cinergy group regarding the acreage they need. so i will contact you later.

thanks for your efforts and i have already faxed john hornback. i could not

email the address was wrong. thanks

jon long

___________________________________________________________________________________

20. Mar 26 10:06 from CVH

Received - Kevin Celarek

Thank You

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21. Mar 26 10:26 from Erlanger Scheyer

John:

Thanks for sharing this information. I've forwarded it to Lee Otte at NKU and asked him to incorporate it into his review.

Bill

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23. Mar 26 11:44 to Erlanger Scheyer

Thank you, Bill.

I hope you can find time to call at your convenience to enable communication not afforded in the limited print heretofore.

Sincerely,

john

727-9999

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24. Mar 26 11:47 to NKy state leaders, Press, Erlanger, etc.

Note: This is a second effort transmittal, following the original occurring earlier this morning, hoping to enlighten and awaken necessary citizen opposition to the Cinergy steamroller poised to seriously damage Quality of Life in Northern Kentucky. This letter has been thoroughly researched with uncompensated efforts in behalf of our long-term Northern Kentucky residential health and welfare.

2001 03 26

Community Recorder Northern Kentucky Kenton County

Letter to the Editor

John Hornback, Director Honorable Ken Lucas Honorable Jim Bunning

Permit Number V-00-053 US Representative US Senator

Division for Air Quality 277 Buttermilk Pike 316 Hart Senate Office Bldg

803 Schenkel Lane Fort Mitchell, KY 41017 Washington, DC 20510

Frankfort, KY 40601 859 426-0080 202/224-4343

john.hornback@mail.state.ky.us Fax: 202/228-1373

kenlucas@mail.house.gov jim_bunning@bunning.senate.gov

Respectfully serving

john schmidt, Master of Science 1985, U. Cincinnati College of Engineering

john@ncad.net

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Editor: Please do not publish: 859 727-9999

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26. Mar 26 11:00pm to all on ?Power List

Dear Editor:

Today i spoke by phone with Frank J. Brooks, who authored the document

GE Gas Turbine Performance Characteristics

referenced on our web as the primary basis for our analysis of inputs and outputs of the proposed Cinergy Power Plant.

He graciously provided the hard data i could otherwise only extrapolate (but did not) as the conditions for operation move away from the documented standard of:

0' above sea-level altitude

59° F

60 % Relative Humidity

The typical mid-summer conditions at the proposed site are:

980' above sea-level ;Note: this should be 850'

85° F

92% Relative Humidity

The 50% increase in humidity results in 50% more water output, while electrical generation declines to 73MW.

This means it would require the equivalent volume of air in 4 Billion Cinergy Stadiums to absorb this hourly water output to a level of 100% Relative Humidity.

He also provided a primary datum i could only otherwise compute imperfectly:

Input Air is 315 lb/sec = 2,268,000 lb/hr, including 394,000 lb/hr of Oxygen removed from the ground level supply also serving the children on the playfields.

Updated calculations are available on our web in the spreadsheet Ciner15.xls.

This final edition then is unquestionably accurate and of value to your readers in understanding the proposed inferno is no "mini" except when compared with huge plants on the river, which are properly buffered by miles of non-habitation. My educated (Master of: Science, Engineering, Health, and GIS) conclusion is that the proposed inferno deserves no less than .5 mile of non-residential buffer and therefore does not fit at the intersections of Riggs Rd, Hulbert Ave, and Kenton Lands Rd.

Thank you again for your faithful service to enlighten the community.

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2001 03 27

Community Recorder Northern Kentucky Kenton County

Letter to the Editor

Thank you for your community service publishing the two-part series about the proposal by Cinergy Capital and Trading to locate a power plant in the midst of residential Northern Kentucky, closely upwind from Crestview Hills and Lakeside Park, but also affecting Edgewood, Fort Mitchell and Crescent Springs. In stagnation, inversions, and southwesterly winds, Erlanger residents would also be affected by the 1037° toxic, carcinogenic exhaust from the proposed, improperly-located summertime inferno. Thousands of active, young people, within 1/2 mile of this abomination, must not be condemned to pained and shorter lives by breathing the proposed pollution on ball fields, in schools and in library visits.

While Cinergy describes this as "mini", the permit (already tentatively issued) allows the hourly consumption of 1 Billion BTUs of energy in order to produce 100 Million Watts of electricity (projected output is 84.2MW, actual will be close to 72MW). This is BIG if you live within a mile of the proposed inferno! While consuming 394,000 pounds of Oxygen per hour from our shared ground-level pool, exhausted wasted heat would warm a 200-acre winter house while spewing 149,000 pounds of water into a local atmosphere already at over 92% relative humidity. It would take the volume of air in over 4 billion Cinergy Stadiums to absorb one hour of water output! In addition, 103,000 pounds of carbon dioxide, and 500 pounds of noxious oxides and carcinogens would spew hourly, 16 hours a day, May through September, when we are already frustrated restricting our much needed exercise to protect respiration.

The ground-level impact of this exhaust is inversely proportional to the amount of wind. Pumping hot exhaust into stagnant air will increase the probability of inversion. National Weather Service: "Inversion- An increase in temperature with height. The reverse of the normal cooling with height in the atmosphere. Temperature inversions trap atmospheric pollutants in the lower troposphere, resulting in higher concentrations of pollutants at ground levels than would usually be experienced."

John Hornback, Director Honorable Ken Lucas Honorable Jim Bunning

Permit Number V-00-053 US Representative US Senator

Division for Air Quality 277 Buttermilk Pike 316 Hart Senate Office Bldg

803 Schenkel Lane Fort Mitchell, KY 41017 Washington, DC 20510

Frankfort, KY 40601-1403 859 426-0080 202/224-4343

john.hornback@mail.state.ky.us Fax: 202/228-1373

kenlucas@mail.house.gov jim_bunning@bunning.senate.gov

Respectfully serving

john schmidt, Master of Science 1985, U. Cincinnati College of Engineering

john@ncad.net

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Editor: Please do not publish: 859 727-9999

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27. Mar 27 07:40 from John Hornback, Director Division of Air Quality

Mr. Schmidt:

I received a call yesterday regarding what may be a misunderstanding between

the two of us as to the role U.S. EPA will play in the final permit decision

on the Cinergy project. We submit copies of all such permits to EPA's

regional office in Atlanta. However, the final permit decision is the

responsibility of the Kentucky Division for Air Quality. I believe I saw in

some of your correspondence that you thought U.S. EPA had to issue a permit.

If that came out of a conversation you and I had, I apologize. DAQ must

make the final decision. Thanks for your continuing correspondence. We

continue to review the issues raised by the public and local communities

regarding this matter.

John E. Hornback, Director

Kentucky Division for Air Quality

803 Schenkel Lane

Frankfort, Kentucky 40601

Ph 502-573-3382

Fax 502-573-3787

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28. Mar 27 2:07pm to Hornback

Thank you, John.

What is the schedule for "final decision"?

What is the first point of contact for appeal?

Sincerely,

john

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29. Mar 27 4:06pm from Hornback

We are still working on the issues raised and reviewing information coming

to the Division. I would expect some decision to be made in April, but

exactly when - or what it will be - remains to be determined.

Normally, a person who is "aggrieved" by a final decision of the Cabinet may

petition the cabinet for a hearing under provisions in KRS 224. That

petition could come to me or could go to our Office of Legal Services or to

the Secretary.

John E. Hornback, Director

Kentucky Division for Air Quality

803 Schenkel Lane

Frankfort, Kentucky 40601

Ph 502-573-3382

Fax 502-573-3787

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30. Mar 27 7:48pm to all ?Power List

Concerned Citizens and Leaders,

The below eMail exchange includes an important statement about to whom, and the schedule by which, we must make our case that there is no room for a Power Plant at the intersection of Riggs, Hulbert, and Kenton Lands Road. Since "April" includes both soon and later, we must be alert to more definitive statements of schedule.

After eMails to all pertinent elected officials, and calls to the Offices of Senator Bunning and Senator Roeding, we conclude more work is needed to enlighten our understanding and requirement for active expression.

Another important question: How does one sign the petition(s) opposing this Inferno? We would like to sign, and to place appropriate contact information on our web, or be able to advise the inqueries we receive.

There is a scheduled meeting at the Erlanger City Building this Thursday at 4:00pm, representing continuation of an established committee focused on the proposed Power Plant and including representatives from the Cities of Erlanger and Crestview Hills, Cinergy, the Long Family, and others.

We sincerely appreciate the efforts by our Frankfort-based Public Servants to listen to the facts of the Proposal and to the will of the people they serve. We assume a better location is available for locating this Power Plant that is unwanted and entirely inappropriate here.

Thank you for your continuing interest and efforts to educate our effective response to this clear and imminent danger to the integrity of Northern Kentucky residential life, for many of us, and for many years to come.

Respectfully serving,

john and deborah schmidt

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-----Original Message-----

From: John.Hornback@mail.state.ky.us

[mailto:John.Hornback@mail.state.ky.us]

Sent: March 27, 2001 4:05 PM

To: john@NCAD.NET

Subject: RE: ?Power Updated Letter

We are still working on the issues raised and reviewing information coming

to the Division. I would expect some decision to be made in April, but

exactly when - or what it will be - remains to be determined.

Normally, a person who is "aggrieved" by a final decision of the Cabinet may

petition the cabinet for a hearing under provisions in KRS 224. That

petition could come to me or could go to our Office of Legal Services or to

the Secretary.

John E. Hornback, Director

Kentucky Division for Air Quality

803 Schenkel Lane

Frankfort, Kentucky 40601

Ph 502-573-3382

Fax 502-573-3787

-----Original Message-----

From: john schmidt [mailto:john@NCAD.NET]

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:07 PM

To: 'John.Hornback@mail.state.ky.us'

Subject: RE: ?Power Updated Letter

Thank you, John.

What is the schedule for "final decision"?

What is the first point of contact for appeal?

Sincerely,

john

-----Original Message-----

From: John.Hornback@mail.state.ky.us

[mailto:John.Hornback@mail.state.ky.us]

Sent: March 27, 2001 7:40 AM

To: john@NCAD.NET

Cc: Donald.Newell@mail.state.ky.us

Subject: RE: ?Power Updated Letter

Mr. Schmidt:

I received a call yesterday regarding what may be a

misunderstanding between the two of us as to the role U.S. EPA will play in the final

permit decision on the Cinergy project. We submit copies of all such

permits to EPA's regional office in Atlanta. However, the final permit

decision is the responsibility of the Kentucky Division for Air Quality. I

believe I saw in some of your correspondence that you thought U.S. EPA had to

issue a permit. If that came out of a conversation you and I had, I

apologize. DAQ must make the final decision. Thanks for your continuing

correspondence. We continue to review the issues raised by the public and local

communities regarding this matter.

John E. Hornback, Director

Kentucky Division for Air Quality

803 Schenkel Lane

Frankfort, Kentucky 40601

Ph 502-573-3382

Fax 502-573-3787

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31. Mar 28 07:29am from Erlanger Suedkampe

Dear John and Deborah,

I thank you again for becoming such "concerned" citizens. Be sure we

are taking all of your researched data into consideration. Bill Scheyer has

been in contact with Mr. Don Newell who is the Supervisor of the Combustion

Section and Permit Review Branch of the Kentucky Division of Air Quality. He

discussed with him the various concerns expressed by yourselves and Riley

Kinman (Erlanger resident and consultant for Crestview Hills). All of his in

put will be discussed at Thursday's meeting at 4:00 in the City Building.

Have a good day, and thank you again for becoming involved in this

complex issue.

Patty

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32. Mar 29 08:55 to all ?Power List

Don Newell

Bill Scheyer

and all pertinent Public Servants,

Concerned Citizens and Leaders,

The accompanying spreadsheet is provided enabling your review and understanding of the combustion activity that is the basis for electricity generation proposed for Kenton Lands Road at Riggs Ave.

The analyses in this spreadsheet have been personally confirmed by Frank J. Brooks, author of GE Gas Turbine Performance Characteristics, which provides specification and performance characteristics of the proposed PG6581B.

It is important for this community to properly measure the impact of this proposal while evaluating cost/benefits over all affected people, and especially with regard to alternatives for this very public site.

Thank you for your careful review and we welcome suggestions for improvement.

Respectfully serving,

john schmidt

859 727-9999

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33. Mar 29 09:10 from Erlanger Scheyer.

[Not having any other prior opportunity, john schmidt is inserting remarks in green.]

To: Mayor and City Council

From: Bill Scheyer

Date: March 27, 2001

Re: Cinergy Power Plant

I have compiled the following information to assist you in determining what, if any, position the City of Erlanger should take concerning the Cinergy Power Plant.

Background

You are being urged by residents, as well as by officials from other cities, to oppose the Cinergy Power Plant project. John Schmidt has distributed a great deal of information claiming that the plant will have serious negative consequences. Cinergy has asked that they be allowed to meet with you again to rebut John's statements and answer other questions you may have. As you know, we have no official regulatory authority over this project. However, you could pass a resolution in opposition to the plant if you chose to do so. What should Erlanger's position be?

As you know, I referred Mr. Schmidt's information to Dr. Lee Otte, an Erlanger resident and head of NKU's Environmental Resource Management Center, to give us an independent review. Dr. Otte issued a preliminary opinion that many of Mr. Schmidt's claims do not appear to be valid. I asked him to continue with his analysis on our behalf. Yesterday, I received a call from Dr. Otte saying that he is no longer with NKU. Since he was coordinating the review personally, we are left without a consultant.

I will contact the interim head of NKU's program to see if they can continue. However, to get a quicker handle on things, I had a long conversation today with Don Newell, the Supervisor of the Combustion Section and Permit Review Branch of the Kentucky Division of Air Quality.

Since Mr. Newell officially issued the Draft Permit, we presume he is naturally interested in defending his position and therefore cannot serve as an independent consultant to the Erlanger Community.

I listed and discussed the various concerns expressed by Mr. Schmidt, as well as by Dr. Riley Kinman, also an Erlanger resident and the paid consultant for Crestview Hills.

Review of the Concerns

1. Distance to nearest residence is 600 feet. There is no state or federal rule that sets minimum distances for these facilities.

There sure should be and according to Representative Draud, there will be.

The scientific analysis done as part of the review process does not indicate that this distance is a problem.

In spite of multiple requests, there has been absolutely no documentation by DAQ offered in response to requests for evidence of said scientific analysis.

However, it is a perceived problem for the residents in that it causes them to feel anxiety about their nearness to the facility.

Cinergy Power Plant Analysis, P. 2

2. Dr. Kinman states that due to the variable quality of the natural gas used to fuel the plant there will be variability in the emissions, which could harm the residents. Mr. Newell states that this concern is unfounded.

Mr. Newell obviously has not read General Electric Report 3942 http://www.gepower.com/publications/gers/GER3942.pdf

here for his convenience excerpted:

Within the last decade...the quality of the natural gas supply within the U.S. has changed. More specifically, heavy hydrocarbon liquids are now commonly found in the gas supply delivered to power plants. ... A consequence of this change is that hydrocarbons beyond C6 are now common in many gas supplies.

First, the quality of the gas is regulated. Second, they used the most conservative figure in calculating the emissions impact.

Please, Mr. Newell, show us the data!

3. The Cinergy application lists the temperature of the ambient or surrounding air during times of operation as being 50 degrees Farenheit. In reality, the ambient air will probably be 70-85 degrees at that time of year. The residents are concerned that this will lead to excessive heat, humidity, and toxic emissions in the surrounding neighborhood. Mr. Newell states that the difference between 50 degrees and 80 degrees has a neglible effect on the results of the calculations.

Mr. Newell obviously has not read GER-3567H

http://www.gepower.com/publications/gers/GER3567h.pdf

indicating an 11% drop in output moving from 50 to 80° F

and small additional drop in output as humidity rises above 0%.

Each incremental drop in output increases toxic emissions.

The temperature of the air coming out of the stacks is extremely high.

over 1000° according to GE's Brooks.

The heat and humidity of the exhaust goes straight up

in ideal conditions

and does not come back to ground level until it has mixed with the surrounding air at a fairly high altitude. The volume of surrounding air is so large that before any heat or humidity would come to earth it has become equal to the ambient conditions.

The volume of steam submitted to the local atmosphere is so large that there will be an impact on the local atmosphere unless there is adequate wind to disperse the continuous double-barrelled fountain. What software are you using, Mr. Newell, to model this emission?

Therefore, the surrounding neighborhood should feel very little, if any, noticeable effects. So, while the operation during times of peak temperature and humidity might provide some basis for some concern, it is really very small.

Kind of like "mini"?. Where is the data???

4. The plant will generate some amounts of chemicals and volatile compounds. For example, 245 tons per year of carbon monoxide, 165 tons per year of nitrogen oxide, 10 tons per year of sulphur dioxide, 2.08 tons per year of formaldehyde, .04 tons per year of benzene. How much risk to human health do these amounts of these substances actually pose?

Without factual data, the following is pure cow dung:

Mr. Newell stated that there are various levels of modeling used by the scientific community to analyze impacts of these type facilities. If the calculations at one level of modeling are significant, then you apply the next level to refine the results and more clearly define the level of concern. In the case of this plant, using the most conservative or rigorous estimates of emissions, the results of the first level of modeling/analysis do not come anywhere near the threshold limit that would trigger the next level of analysis. In other words, based on accepted scientific standards for exposure levels, the emissions from this plant do not pose a health risk.

To put this statement into a more visible perspective, he pointed out that the plant is designed to emit 245 tons per year of carbon monoxide (CO).

The proposed emission is not per year; it is per hot summer days May - Sep.

In other work done by the Division of Air Quality in the Crestview Hills/Erlanger area, it was determined that automobile exhausts place 88 tons per day or 32,120 tons per year of carbon monoxide into the air at ground level.

It is ridiculous to compare emissions from a single point source in an unbuffered residential community to automobiles over an entire year, over an entire metropolitan area. Let us have these details in writing, Mr. Newell.

Cinergy Power Plant Analysis, P. 3

Finally, he pointed out that the permit will set a limit on the total amount of CO that the plant can produce in its lifetime (before having to either shut down or apply for a new permit). Therefore, Cinergy has a very strong economic incentive to make sure they operate the plant at high efficiency from a pollution standpoint because every extra ton of CO produced shortens the economic, revenue producing life of the plant.

And who will measure this important output in this terribly inefficient process? An honest man with accurate scopes?

5. Dr. Kinman has pointed out that even though these findings apply during normal weather conditions, the effects may be worse during unusual weather conditions. Mr. Newell reacted by saying, "Yes, it is possible to construct a set of weather conditions that could produce an unusual result.

Happens every summer here, Mr. Newell. However, the analysis for the granting of the permit is based on historic meteorological conditions in the area. So, the likelihood of these special conditions that are so unusual actually occurring is very small."

There you go again. Please show us the meterological data you have utilized. We will decide what is "small".

In addition, if such a condition did arise, it would be affecting the entire area and the solution could be to shut down the plant on that particular day, if need be.

We understand your permit dictates no circumstances for "shut down".

6. A concern has been expressed that the plant is near sensitive populations, in other words, old people and children. Mr. Newell pointed out that this is a concern in that standards or control levels are almost always reduced to more stringent levels to provide protection for seniors and children. However, the analysis done

There you go again. Please show us the data!

in reviewing Cinergy's application showed results so far below the threshold levels for concern that this issue is automatically addressed.

7. Dr. Kinman raised a concern about the levels of CO production possibly triggering unacceptable levels of ozone. Mr. Newell stated that the plant is designed to produce 245 tons of CO per year.

per summer!

100,000 pounds per hour!

Not within 1200' of 500 lives!

This is below the 250 ton per year level that triggers higher level analysis by the EPA. This level is set on such a conservative basis that it provides a significant margin of confidence that smaller plants, such as this one, will not produce the kinds of effects that Dr. Kinman postulates.

8. Dr. Kinman states that the plant will produce a constant humming sound. This may be true. However, the citizens committee has been involved in a lot of work aimed at agreeing upon noise standards. Whether the humming sound, if it occurs, will be noticeable in relation to the background noise of the area is hard to tell.

-by an idiot! You cannot cover the smoke stacks gushing 2,000,000 pounds per hour, nor the intake sucking 500,000 cubic feet per minute, not to mention the roar of 1 Billion BTU explosion and whirrr of a finned axial turbine!!!!!

The preliminary conclusion from the committee would seem to indicate that it would probably not be noticeable.

However, it's a subjective element and hard to really determine.

Why don't you try it out first in your back yard, Mr. Chairman?

9. Dr. Kinman expressed concern about possible fire and explosion hazards at the site. Mr. Newell said that based on all the standards in place and data available, the likelihood of this occurring is very slight.

but not 0, Mr. Newell. Who will accept the liability for the explosion that may occur?

Cinergy Power Plant Analysis, P. 4

10. Dr. Kinman also stated concern that a hot turbine blade might fly off and land in the residential neighborhood or penetrate a rail car carrying chemicals, thus leading to a catastrophe. The likelihood of this occurring is just about non-existent. First, the number of incidents where blades have flown off is very low. In addition, these turbines are stationary which increases stability of the unit. If a blade did fly off, it would have to break through the casing of the turbine unit itself. If it accomplished that, it would still have to break through the wall of the building that houses the entire unit. All things considered, there doesn't seem to be very much likelihood of this happening.

Based on my conversation with Mr. Newell, it appears to me that Cinergy's permit will be granted. As he pointed out, their authority does not extend to deciding whether a site is the best one for a facility.

This states to 500 lives within 1200' feet of this inferno that we, your public servants, care nothing about your welfare.

Their job is to determine whether the project is in compliance with all state and federal regulations. There does not appear to be any element of this application that is out of compliance.

What to do, what to do?

Should we take a position on this project, or should we continue to be officially neutral and let the project stand or fall on its merits? Here are the elements that I think might affect your decision.

1. Zoning: Even though we don't have actual zoning authority, is the project proposed for a site that is reasonably appropriate?

A. Cinergy owns the property, has another lower impact operation there, and has direct connection to the natural gas to fuel the plant.

B. The area itself is transitional in nature. That is, it is near a residential neighborhood on one two sides, though there are railroad tracks between the site and the houses. It is also near Baptist Village and the Library site, which are both sort of "commercial, residential, institutional" in nature. It is also immediately adjacent to a site that will not be developed as an industrial park.

Another preposterous characterization by some arrogant one who obviously does not live within the 1200' radius.

2. Negative effects: Will there be actual negative impacts?

A. Visual: The plant will probably be screened from view for the most part. The element that will definitely be seen is the top of the stacks that will extend above the tree line. Cinergy has committed to do their best to screen the site. It will be very important for them to successfully buy the heavily treed frontage along Kenton Lands Road from the Long family. If this is not accomplished, the project would almost certainly have negative visual impact on Baptist Village and the Library.

Cinergy Power Plant Analysis, P. 5

B. Health and Environment: It appears that the Division of Air Quality has done a thorough job of evaluating all the various risk elements and it further appears that the concerns that have been expressed by residents do not hold up when evaluated scientifically.

There has been absolutely no science offered. None.

C. Noise: The noise issue, in my opinion, has been thoroughly evaluated. The limit that the citizens committee agreed upon is 50 decibels at the nearest residence. In discussing this with Bill Viox this afternoon, he pointed out that in designing commercial structures like a MacDonalds, the decibel limit for speakers at the drive through is 75-80 decibels at a distance of one meter. By comparison, 50 decibels at 600 feet for this plant seems quite reasonable.

That is real science!

The key is making sure Cinergy meets the standard. They have publicly committed to do so.

Do we have it in writing? Anything? The only concern apparent from Cinergy is for their stock holders and merge prospect.

3. Benefits to Erlanger residents

A. Energy availability: This facility will sell energy on the open market. Therefore, it is not being built just to meet energy demands of our own citizens, but the same could be said for plants in other places, too. Somebody has to be producing enough to meet the total energy demand of our country, including our local residents. So, we in Northern Kentucky also draw from this national pool of energy, but this benefit is not direct or immediate.

B. Tax Revenue: The City of Erlanger will receive tax revenue, possibly in the range of $100,000. This will directly benefit Erlanger residents by paying for our public services. This alone, however, is not a reason to support the project IF it would have actual, as opposed to perceived, negative consequences.

The Mayor and City Council of Crestview Hills have asked us to reconsider our position and officially oppose the building of this plant (see attached). In the foregoing paragraphs, I have tried to assemble information, which may help you decide how to respond to this request. Let me know if I need to do anything else to assist in this.

As an editorial comment, I will say that I am a bit offended by the statement in the last paragraph of their letter that asks us to consult with "independent, outside experts who are not affiliated with a utility company to research these issues". I think the City of Erlanger has done an outstanding job of making sure divergent viewpoints have been heard, of approaching this issue in a rational, as opposed to emotional, way, and of trying to evaluate data by seeking independent advice. In my opinion, Cinergy has a vested interest in presenting their data in a light favorable to their position, but Crestview Hills and their consultant also have an interest in presenting their data in a favorable light. Our interest has been in evaluating the data in an unbiased way. To that end, we've dealt with terminated professors at NKU

and the regulators from Frankfort. All the people we have called upon have scientific background, and no vested interest in distorting the analysis.

One final ridiculous statement!!!

Common/public/council/Cinergy Power Plant Analysis

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34. Mar 30 1:22pm from Erlanger Scheyer

John:

I have calls in to some meteorologists and professors trying to find a scientist with the appropriate background to evaluate your concerns about the thermal effects on environmental humidity. For data, I am referring them to your web page.

Bill

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35. Mar 30 2:24pm from Erlanger Rouse

Hi John. I'm not fond of your comment on your website about the 'absence of

responsible leadership' on the part of the Mayor, Council and administration

of Erlanger. By now I am sure you recognize that this is not a decision the

Council can make, as it is not within the power of Council to prohibit this

plant. We can exercise only persuasive commentary, which is what I am doing

'behind the scenes.' Sometime, we can discuss this situation, and the power

of the written word to mislead and distort. I'm still working on this

situation, as are many others affiliated with the city, and we frankly don't

need your unfair characterizations. Tom Rouse

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36. Mar 31 12:49pm to Erlanger Rouse

Tom,

i would be encouraged about progress, but after the meeting you did not attend Thurs i am only further enraged. But rather than trade eMail, please call when you can, as i have suggested. we will be here at the office all weekend.

debora & john

727-9999

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37. Apr 01 2:59pm from Erlanger Suedkampe

Dear John:

I felt it better to write in lieu of a phone call. As you know, I have

been extremely supportive of your efforts regarding the Cinergy issue. I

feel that the City of Erlanger welcomed you and your vast scientific

knowledge, and treated you with the utmost respect.

Bill as Chairperson, and a neutral member of the Citizens Committee,

recognized the vast spectrum of the issues at hand and immediately went to

outside sources to gain information to bring back to the table for

discussion. At "NO" time has either Bill or myself leaned in either

direction regarding the power plant. That was not the purpose of the

Committee.

You again were acknowledged, and welcomed to speak to Council. With

your vast scientific knowledge, you brought to our attention your concerns.

Bill again acted on that information and has contacted UC and the

meteorologists from all of the local stations.

That having been said, how could you make the statement on your web site

that, and I quote, "devastated by the absence of (responsible leadership) by

the City of Erlanger." I take this as a personal insult, and am stunned by

your lack of professionalism and feel a public apology is in order.

I appreciate your concerns regarding this issue, however, when your City

is making every effort to research this sensitive issue, I would think you

would herald their intent rather than slam them in the public eye.

Sincerely,

Patty Suedkamp

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38. Apr 01 7:17pm to Erlanger Suedkampe

Patty,

Thank you for responding. If you can measure the love you have for (your children + community), you will know how much love i have for my community. While i believe trading eMail is not the best way to achieve common understanding, i will offer my best within the shoebox you provide. I am looking far past this transient episode and look forward to new opportunities for working on common ground.

It is not "utmost respect" when i am denied the opportunity to answer the important question by CouncilMember Gronefeld about the basis for my report. Scheyer is not neutral when scheduling the agenda to first assume the abomination will occur. I have not been invited to a discussion. I have only been earmarked for neutralization.

We can chase through the trees with "experts" ad nauseatum. While my (unfunded) hasty initial analysis (Ciner10.xls) was imperfect, its purpose was strictly to indicate the absolutely inappropriate magnitude of this combustion activity. My current analysis of output (Ciner15.xls) is correct. No one at Erlanger has offered me gratitude or respect for the over 100 hours required, at enormous cost to our humble business, to unimpeachably, professionally assemble that report. All i have seen is a ridiculous report by idiot(s) at NKU ERMC who gave Scheyer the gall to publish dispersions on my efforts, for which i deserve a correspondingly public apology. The ensuing departure from NKU by Dr. Otto speaks for itself.

The next frantic move by Scheyer is to consult the fox who is guarding the chickens. Don Newell has reported absolutely nothing of scientific merit and has no credibility compared with Frank J. Brooks of General Electric who is not in agreement with the statement attributed to Newell that "the difference between 50 and 80 degrees has a negligible effect on the results of the calculations". The statement that "quality of the gas is regulated" is irrelevant to the fact corroborated by Brooks, and by trade publications, that the quality of natural gas in pipelines has been eroding since and because of deregulation to the point that the product today is at best 90% methane, the balance comprising higher-order alkanes typically generating increased levels of carcinogens upon combustion.

Why is Erlanger willing to be the most stupid community in America, accepting for its residents the untested experiment of arranging for residents and visitors the closest proximity to a high-industrial, and correspondingly unhealthy and dangerous, activity -- that all over the world elsewhere is accorded the appropriate buffer from residential dwelling.

Here is the big picture:

This is not complex. This is utterly simple.

This Power Plant does not fit this close to child play, residences and Library.

There are places in Northern Kentucky for SMOKESTACKS.

But not in her most visible heart, not among residences already over-burdened by societal pollution.

It will not be satisfying, after installation of this Inferno, for me to hear "We should have listened to you!". Since this is irreversible, it will simply be a long-suffered, tragic devastation to all of Northern Kentucky, my chosen home -- to be defined, at our most visible gateway, to all freeway travelers, by smog-spewing SMOKESTACKs.

Those not supporting the citizens affected by this tyranny, i must conclude, are either:

1) bought off

2) stupid

3) hypnotized

4) brain-washed

5) insensitive to others regarding conditions you would not accept in your front yard.

6) _______________

Please fill in the blank if you must.

Every council member who does not actively support our defense from this tyranny will not enjoy yard signs out front, and must answer to this neglect of leadership the next time we citizens may exercise our feeble power to elect our public SERVANTS.

I refuse for my community to be signified by SMOKESTACKS.

Therefore i pray GOD will direct us to the proper realization of our fantastic opportunity to create a healthy, vibrant, tax-generating development on the remaining undeveloped property consistent with the existing, predominant uses -- recreational, agricultural, residential, and institutional -- all of which, compared to the proposed Inferno, are absolutely contained and benign.

GOD bless your ability to read and think.

Respectfully serving,

john

727-9999

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39. Apr 02 1:33pm from Erlanger Rouse

-----Original Message-----

From: WahooTLR@aol.com [mailto:WahooTLR@aol.com]

Sent: April 02, 2001 1:33 PM

To: john@ncad.net

Cc: bscheyer@hotmail.com; Pattyerl@aol.com; marc99@fuse.net

Subject: Re: ERLANGER'S EFFORTS

Dear John: I read your letter to Mrs. Suedkamp, and also received your voice

mails this weekend. I am sorry the time wasn't available to call you, but I

have 2 teenaged daughters, a 9 yr old stepson, and a wife I love, and these

folks deserve my attention and efforts.

The situation is simple - Cinergy wants to place the plant in the

wrong place. No matter what conclusions the 'science' leads an analyist to,

it doesn't matter to me. The location is wrong for the use. I voted against a

resolution in support of the plant last fall, and will offer another one

opposing the location tomorrow night. I have talked to their governmental

relations folks, and was told that their 'investment committee' hasn't

approved the project despite the obtaining of permits. I will continue in

these efforts.

I really think some of your comments are counterproductive. Scheyer

is, in my opinion, neutral on the subject. He is trying to obtain the best

information he has access to and give council the results of his efforts.

Again, it really doesn't matter. Erlanger has no say - just the ability to

use rhetoric to persuade. You catch more files with sugar than salt, so it

pays to try to work with them as much as possible.

You wrote that Erlanger seems to 'accept' this plant - concluding

that council must be stupid or paid off, or insentitive, etc. John, we

haven't accepted anything - we don't have control. I wish council did, but it

doesn't. I'm not stupid (at least no one has called me that today - it varies

day by day depending on who wins the cases I try) nor am I paid off. I dont

campaign for election (so I won' t ask to put a sign in your yard) and have

better things to do with my time than be slandered.

Our council agendas have been the same since I joined council in

1988. A council meeting is not time for debate among citizens, the

administration and council. Scheyer does NOT set the agendas - the Mayor

does, and they haven't varied for over a decade. They definitely are not set

against you.

I have an idea - run for election to council the next time you can.

TOM ROUSE

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39. Apr 02 4:57pm to CVH Celarek

Kevin,

Thank you for speaking with me this morning.

What do you think of sponsoring a

Citizen Assembly

at _____________________?

Monday, 7:00pm

2001 April 9

just spoke with Joe Malone who mentioned Thos More.

cannot be at Dixie HS (spring break)

What about Board of Education on Kenton Lands?

Thank you, sincerely,

john schmidt

727-9999

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40. Apr 02 6:51pm to Erlanger Rouse. cc: Long, Erlanger Council & Admin

Hooray!

Tom, we look forward to your resolution and would like to offer our, by now well-informed input, in the specific wording of this important communication to the state of Kentucky. It has never been our intention to include you, or any particular Council Member, in the indictment applicable to the City of Erlanger based on the collusion apparent in the sham "Citizens' Committee". Pending the desired outcome that no smokestacks will be built, we will applaud and proclaim the service by the City of Erlanger defending our community from this tyranny we are currently being coaxed to accept.

You state "Erlanger has no say - just the ability to use rhetoric to persuade." We strongly believe Erlanger certainly has "Say", just as any victim in this free world has "Say". Erlanger is the sponsoring City of this abomination. It cannot occur without cooperation with the City. It requires a conscious commitment of resources to accommodate this imposition. Our preference is that the City, when first approached, on day one, would JUST SAY NO. We expect our public servants to defend our community, not sell it to the highest bidder. Instead, with regrettably little attention by Council, Mr. Scheyer has encouraged and supported Cinergy, skillfully guiding their battleship into the tiny Kenton Lands dock, amidst unanswered questions by Dr. Riley Kinman, Deborah Schmidt, the only identified Erlanger "Citizen" (but not included on the Committee), and others.

Please forgive my excesses which nevertheless may be required to rock and shake this boat carefully piloted by Mr. Scheyer, who has provided no clue of neutrality in (other than lip service) all our observations. His operational behavior appears to assume this Power Plant will happen. His Agenda for the March 29 meeting speaks for itself. At the end, he congratuated (himself) for accomplishing Site Development when all of us are stuck on SmokeStacks, Safety, and Air Quality -- last on his Agenda.

While he has found noone to dispute the result (Ciner15.xls) of my painstaking work, indicating in accurate detail that this monsterous Plant requires at least 1/2-mile buffer from innocent lives, he continues undaunted -- contrary to his written statement of March 7 "If [Schmidt's] information is correct, I'm sure our City Council and the Citizens Committee will want to take a position in opposition to the plant."

He is pursuing every avenue to assure this abomination will somehow be accepted in the face of increasing evidence it cannot. We object to any collusion by the City of Erlanger with Cinergy who has shown insufficient regard for lives in proximity to the proposed Inferno. We strongly believe the City of Erlanger has a strong and effective voice in regard to final review of this permit application # V-00-053 in Frankfort. This obtains from John Hornback, who claims responsibility for final decision, both in remarks March 5 at Dixie H.S., unattended by official Erlanger, and by eMail copied below.

Mr. Scheyer's continued endeavor is costing us personally, our corporation NCAD, our sleep, our health, our good mood... so pardon me if i am not rested and polished. He is similarly costing our neighbors including the City of Crestview Hills and the Kenton County Library, who continue to defend at no small cost the affected lives from the tyranny prosecuted by Mr. Scheyer in the sham of the "Citizens' Committee".

I hold no personal grudge against Mr. Scheyer, and look forward to new issues on which to share common ground. I hope we can debate this issue with Cinergy, with civility and mutual respect. He finds himself out on a limb, and i find myself helping to counter-balance the tree, on which we may all come to a rational conclusion for the good of the Friendship City. Having watched Mr. Scheyer over the years, i respect his ability and experience, but i sense his appetite for revenue has exceeded the good of the community, and so we look to Council to perhaps more directly hold in view the consequences of this inappropriate grab for dollars, and thereby chart a higher road.

No, i am (as you can see) not a good politician! I strongly wish to be private and politically neutral and serve all government without regard to politicial opinions and differences. In this case, i find myself confronting an enormous void regarding the need to inform and protect innocent lives from tyrannical, nonsensical imposition, and to preserve the image of our City on which we all depend. Where our leaders fall short, i am coupling my rage at the deceit behind this proposed imposition, with my passion for community health, and you see the result.

Thank you, Tom, for the many years of diligent service you have provided in support of the continuing emergence of Erlanger as the premier Northern Kentucky City on the Hill. To Erlanger, as we should more effectively tell our school children: Please do not SMOKE!

GOD bless you.

We look forward to getting back to work and our restful home, and leaving politics for y'all!

Respectfully serving,

john schmidt

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41. Apr 02 7:40pm from Erlanger Rouse

Dear John: Thanks for the reply. I disagree with at least 2 things you wrote

- and I will mention them here. First, Erlanger is not 'sponsoring' the

project. Cineergy already has a plant here - for many years. We didn't invite

the project, ask for it, or anything else that I am aware of. Second, I

believe the plant CAN happen even in the face of city opposition. Like I have

said, the city government can not stop thwe project - that is within the

jurisdiction of other agencies, such as the Public services commission. You

have done a good job, tirelessly and zealously, and have presented your

findings an beliefs in a credible, organized fashion. I truly hope we can

stop this thing, but I dont think it will be because of emissions, heat,

pollution or any other environmental issue. It will be because cool heads

have convinced Cinergy that this isnt the right place and they will lose tons

of good will forcing it down our throats. Just My opinion for what its

worth.. Best wishes - TOM

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42. Apr 03 10:05 to Erlanger Rouse. cc: Long, Erlanger Council & Admin

Tom,

Thanks again for follow-up.

This brings up an important distinction. You may skip right to the bold.

The following 2 paragraphs comprise a question in the form of a series of speculative best-guess assumptions: (Perhaps Cinergy could clear up some of this uncertainty.)

Cinergy is not now producing power at this Kenton Lands site.

This site is a gas distribution plant, a distribution hub,

perhaps of unique value because of its elevation relative to the vast majority of transmission lines that appear to run at lower elevations. Please refer to the map on our web.

Most of our natural gas comes from the region surrounding the Gulf of Mexico.

and is transmitted to this area via large underground pipelines, which nationwide, form a nexus of interconnecting lines that are increasingly shared as are telecommunication trunks. There is a downside to this "sharing":

Quoting excerpts from General Electric Reference GER-3942:

Within the last decade...the quality of the natural gas supply within the US has changed. More specifically, heavy hydrocarbon liquids are now commonly found in the gas supply delivered to power plants.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) Order 636 in 1991 opened access to transportation pipelines to all gas suppliers and eliminated the semi-monopolistic contracts that limited access to one or more suppliers.

In addition, FERC 636 requires producers, transporters, and local distributors to sell gas on a therm or energy basis. This created increased competition within the natural gas industry and drove suppliers to produce gas at minimum cost. A consequence is that hydrocarbons beyond C6 are now common in many gas supplies.

This is great for heating, but not good for clean air!

Anyway, there is no continuum of property usage from gas distribution to gas-fired combustion.

Combustion is serious, dangerous business, and it is in all cases conducted as far as possible away from innocent lives, i.e. in industrial areas. Just like, at 2, we learn to separate our poop from our food, society has learned long ago to separate industry from residence. A real basic Planning-And-Zoning-101 matter.

Once Cinergy wants to start burning something, we expect common societal governance to assign that activity to an industrial area away from the pathways of children and residential areas. It is only steely bold, audacious opportunism that would lead Cinergy to exploit their footing (representing a base camp for distribution) into a feed for combustion. Society should not fall prey to such opportunism!

Please help me understand. When Cinergy first approached Erlanger to pursue combustion, Erlanger should have just said NO. When Erlanger did not, Erlanger became the sponsor of this Cinergy quest, for it cannot continue without the support of Erlanger. We all know the lure was money. Perhaps we have learned that not all dollars merit pursuit.

Cinergy will always require and enjoy the Erlanger gas distribution facility. It is a logical quest for them to double the duty. But it is inappropriate to burn here. Cinergy, upon hearing No, will turn to other sites affording the required buffer between combustion and innocent lives.

Thanks again, Tom, for pursuing the issues for greater understanding.

Respectfully serving,

john

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43. Apr 04 11:59 to Erlanger Scheyer

Bill,

If i didn't know well enough how solid is your professionalism, i would have to be gentler in the public debate in which we find ourselves at odds.

This is just an effort to diffuse any tension that may obtain from your end, although i don't expect it. There is none from mine.

Looking forward to getting past this brief episode in the scheme of things, i am hoping we can (and perhaps should have earlier) find time for gentle discussion about our vision for the City of Erlanger.

In offering Tom Rouse praise for his long-standing work behind the scenes contributing to the growing emergence of Erlanger as the premier Northern Kentucky City on the Hill, i realized this same praise goes to you.

Please understand i love you as much as i love my neighborhood, my community, and our City we are privileged to serve.

Here is to better communication and a standing invitation for lunch or dinner when you can make the time.

Respectfully yours,

john

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44. Apr 04 5:45pm from Erlange Scheyer

John:

I appreciate your extension of an olive branch. I do recognize your love for our city and our community, and I'm glad that you recognize my equal love of it/them. Getting together for lunch or dinner sounds like a fine idea and I'll look forward to it. If you'd like to take the lead in setting it up, just give my secretary, Linda Ochs, a call at 727-7992.

I will say, since we're in correspondence here, that you are completely incorrect in your belief that I am in favor of the power plant and have been trying to see that it gets built. My position (and you can ask anyone at the City about this) has been neutral from day one. My one concern has been to see that the process we follow in responding to the issue and the various concerns that arise from it is a balanced one, which makes sure that the interests of all parties (our various residents, as well as Cinergy, which has been a cooperative part of our community for years) are given fair consideration.

So often decisions on issues like these are made on the basis of corporate relationships and money on the one hand, or sensitivity to citizen nimbyism on the other. I think both of those reasons are wrong and I want Erlanger to be a city that looks at facts on both sides, ensures that all voices are heard, and tries to make policy decisions on a rational and balanced basis. I think we've done a good job of doing that.

With that in mind, I think that your characterizations of some of us, me in particular, as being influenced by money and/or stupid and/or arrogant and/or insensitive to our residents has been unprofessional and wrong-headed. Be that as it may, I have tried to make sure that your opinions and information have been shared with the Council, the Citizens Committee, and others. Having said that, let's forget it. I respect and share your desire to move on and to work together effectively in the future for our common goal of serving Erlanger and Northern Kentucky. I look forward to our lunch.

Bill

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45. Apr 03 11:59pm from Erlanger Suedkampe

Dear Deborah and John:

Congratulations on your victory. I hope there are no hard feelings

about my rebuttal tonight, however, I am a person of firm convictions, and it

is always OK to disagree, with me but "NEVER" challenge or compromise my

reputation. I hold it in the highest regard.

As I have stated in prior conversations I sincerely respect your time,

effort, and passion regarding this issue.

I am sincerely hoping that the outcome of tonight's resolution in favor

of your efforts will bring to light that Erlanger has never or will ever

jeopardize the health or well being of any citizen for "ANY" dollar amount.

Our Council, how ever varied, works extremely well when well informed.

We, as neutral representatives on the Cinergy committee, brought back all

data we had attained (including your most valuable information) and enabled

them to make a (UNANIMOUS) decision. John, trust is a wonderful tool.

Hoping our differences are put aside, I remain proudly your Vice Mayor.

Patty

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46. Apr 05 2:40pm from Erlanger Gronefeld

John...I want to thank you for opening the eyes of many of the members of

council. I, along with Tom, opposed the creation of the joint committee from

the outset, and I also argued against giving Cinergy an audience before our

city council in a thinly veiled attempt to sway us towards their position.

I've lived in Erlanger all of my of life. I used to play in the woods where

the proposed would have been constructed (perhaps I'm being too optimistic

with my grammar, but I hope not). I love Erlanger and I love serving her

citizens. Your dedication to our city and love for it are without question.

I applaud your involvement and your efforts with regard to this issue. You

are to be commended, and you have my undying gratitude. However, I must

refute your characterization of Mr. Scheyer. His actions are always based

upon the best interests of the people of Erlanger and I consider him a

friend, a leader, and a fellow public servant. I understand that in matters

such as this passion can sometimes get the better of us all, but trust me

when I say that Bill's motives are always honorable. If I can ever be of

service to you, please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks...Jim Gronefeld

__________________________________________________________________________________47. Apr 06 12:24pm to all ?Power List, Cinergy Chaney

2001 April 09 Inviting Your Participation

Requesting representation from:

Cinergy

KY Division for Air Quality

KY Senate and House

City of Erlanger

City of Crestview Hills

Kenton County Library Board

Erlanger Baptist Village

Consultants

Informed Citizens

Citizens Assembly

Especially residents of Crestview Hills, Erlanger, Lakeside Park, Fort Mitchell, Crescent Springs, and Edgewood

Science Center Room S401, 4th Floor

This room is closest to Thomas More Parkway, just behind the building letters "Science Center"

Direct, front entrance from Visitors' Lot (20 steps);

Rear 2nd floor entrance from Faculty Lot (no steps);

East entrance through Administration Building (no steps).

Thomas More College

Monday, 7:00pm

2001 April 09

Moderator

Kevin Celarek, City Administrator, Crestview Hills, KY

Purpose

This meeting provides a public forum for discussion of information and viewpoints related to the proposal by Cinergy Capital and Trading Company of Cincinnati, OH to install a new Power Plant at 3000 Kenton Lands Road, Erlanger, KY.

Based on the existing Draft Permit # V-00-053, filed with the Department of Air Quality in the Kentucky Cabinet for Natural Resources and Environmental Protection, the Plant would include 2 units General Electric (Schenectady, NY) PG6581B, combined generating 70 - 90 MW of electricity based on natural gas input of approximately 800M BTUs.

Cinergy currently operates a natural gas distribution service center at this site. Currently, no combustion nor electricity generation occurs at this site.

The final permit, if approved by the state of Kentucky would enable natural gas combustion and 1000° exhaust at the rate of 2,000,000 pounds/hr, including emissions regulated by the Division of Air Quality Permit. Each unit would include a smokestack facilitating exhaust of the combustion products. The height of the smokestacks is generally inversely related to the magnitude of impact of these emissions on local ambient air.

These and other details will be provided and discussed to enable informed Citizen response and comment to the state of Kentucky as a part of evaluating the Permit filed by Cinergy.

The Director of the Division of Air Quality, Mr. Hornback, on April 06 states he is unable to attend this meeting and is likely to make a decision between April 16 and April 30.

More details are provided at:

www.ncad.net ?Power

Crestview Hills City Building, 9am - 5pm

50 Crestview Hills Mall Road

24-hour contact: 859 727-9999

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48. Apr 08 10:43pm from Kathy Lang, Citizen, Crestview Hills

Hi John Smith & Kevin Celarek:

see below, regarding John's Hornback's response to Donna...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Donna Mattingly" <dmattingly2@peoplepc.com>

To: "Kathy Lang" <kmlang@peoplepc.com>; <mikesadouskas@aol.com>;

<cvh@fuse.net>

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 5:47 PM

Subject: Fw: Proposed Cinergy Power Plant at 3000 Erlanger-Crescent Springs

Road

> FYI -

> Here is the response I received from John Hornback...apparently a former

> neighbor! Is he suggesting that we appeal to Cinergy to withdraw their

> application? It may be a additional way to go, or am I being naive?

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <John.Hornback@mail.state.ky.us>

> To: <dmattingly2@peoplepc.com>

> Cc: <Allan.Elliott@mail.state.ky.us>; <Donald.Newell@mail.state.ky.us>

> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:25 AM

> Subject: RE: Proposed Cinergy Power Plant at 3000 Erlanger-Crescent

Springs

> Road

> > Thank you for your note. The Division for Air Quality is still

reviewing

> a

> > variety of citizen concerns regarding Cinergy's proposed project. I

once

> > lived less than one mile from the proposed site, on Lyndale Road in

> > Edgewood, so I'm familiar with the location of the proposed facility,

> > subdivisions, and other properties.

> >

> > Our division has significant responsibilities to protect human health

and

> > the environment. We must do so within the statutes and regulations

which

> > have been established for us to enforce. If it is found that this

project

> > will not comply with regulatory requirements, we have an obligation to

> deny

> > the permit or fix the problem. Where general statutory authority

exists,

> > but there are no regulations (such as the noise issue), we may have a

less

> > defined role, but we still have a responsibility to do the best we can

> > ensure reasonable protection of citizens in the area. If all

requirements

> > are met, we must issue the permit unless the company withdraws the

> > application.

> >

> > I sent a staff person to a meeting last Thursday, March 29, with

Cinergy,

> > City of Erlanger, City of Crestview Hills, and others. We continue to

> > monitor local meetings and concerns about the issue.

> >

> > We expect to finalize our review in the fairly near future and will let

> > everyone know our final decision when it is made via a press release

which

> > should be carried by your local newspapers.

> >

> > John Hornback, Director

> > Kentucky Division for Air Quality

> > 803 Schenkel Lane

> > Frankfort, Kentucky 40601-1403

> > voice 502.573.3382

> > fax 502/573/3787

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Donna Mattingly [mailto:dmattingly2@peoplepc.com]

> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:02 AM

> > To: paul.patton@mail.state.ky.us; John.Hornback@mail.state.ky.us;

> > james.bickford@mail.state.ky.us

> > Subject: Proposed Cinergy Power Plant at 3000 Erlanger-Crescent Springs

> Road

> >

> > Dear Governor, Mr. Bickford and Mr. Hornback,

> >

> > I am a registered voter at 864 Windsor Green Drive, Villa Hills, Ky.

> >

> > I would like to express my strong opposition to the power plant planned

> > Cenergy at 3000 Erlanger-Crescent Springs Road. I ask you to deny their

> > request for an air pollution permit, Title V/Synthetic Minor Permit for

> > Cinergy Capital & Trading Inc. Plant ID #> 21-117-00166 Application Log

> > 53275.

> >

> > While this parcel of land is zoned commercial that doesn't mean that we

> feel

> > a polluting power plant is appropriate. This property is in the midst of

> > thousands of private homes, the closest within 800 feet. There is a

> > retirement center across the street from this property and the new

Kenton

> > Co. Library! Furthermore, I cannot imagine the economic impact of this

> > plant. Who would want to build, or to buy in this area?It is within a

mile

> > from a gradeschool. Well, you get the picture.

> >

> > I plead with you to join us, your constituents, in opposing the

imposition

> > of pollution and carcinogens upon our homes, families, businesses and

> lives!

> >

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49. Apr 08 10:43pm from Crestview Hills Citizen Lang

Attn: Kevin Celarek & John Smith:

----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Mattingly

To: mikesadouskas@aol.com

Cc: Kathy Lang

Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:14 PM

Subject: Cinergy Power Plant at 3000 Crescent Springs - Erlanger Road

Hi Mayor!

Here is one of 3 articles which I received on the site - all past publications ~

I cannot thank you enough for your support on this issue.

I hope that Villa Hills will be able to publicly come out against this power plant, perhaps sometime this week. Unfortunately, time is of the essence. In addition to the Governor, Rep. Draud, Senators Roeding and Westwood, it may be of great help to communicate directly with Cinergy asking them to withdraw their request for a pollution permit from the state of Kentucky. Mr. Rodgers', president of Cinergy, address is on one of the flyers I gave you. If you feel that this is something you can do on behalf of your citizens, I urge you to do so.

I hope that you are able to arrange your plans so that you can attend the Citizens Rally 7:00 p.m., 4/9 at Thomas More College. I look forward to meeting you there so that I may thank you in person.

Best Regards,

Donna

<<power032001.html>>

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50. Apr 09 3:46pm from Erlanger Citizen Aubrey to john.hornback@mail.state.ky.us

Dear Mr. Hornback,

I must join the rising chorus of voices opposed to the proposed

power plant in Erlanger at 3000 Kenton Lands Road.

This power plant will be closely located to the new Kenton County

Library, the Erlanger Baptist Village, the Silverlake Recreation Center

and too many homes, including my own.

The distance is less than 1000 feet. I have been told that this

alone creates a violation.

I understand that Cinergy has other sites well suited for this

power plant. Therefore, another site not in close proxmity to homes and

other establishments within this community could and should be chosen.

Cinergy has not yet exhibited empathy towards our position. Yet

they have stated publicly that they will not come to a site where they

are not welcomed. However, that was spoken before the opposition arose.

Their public attitude now appears to disregard the concerns of the

residents in the area.

Consequently, our hope remains in your service to the public.

Please protect our health and home against this unnecessary intrusion.

Sincerely,

Brent and Mary Aubrey

3090 Hulbert Avenue

Erlanger, KY. 41018

859-727-1363

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51. Apr 10 9:28pm from Erlanger Citizen Aubrey to kyedits@cincypost.com

Cinergy has plans to build a power plant in a heavily-residential

area of Erlanger. They are proceeding with their plans inspite of

(1)heavy opposition from the communities that will be adversely affected

by this construction and (2) having less objectionable sites available

to them.

When representatives from Cinergy announced this plan, they were

quick to tell us also that Cinergy would not come where they were not

welcomed. But that was before the opposition arose. Since that time,

they have not exhibited any empathy towards the opposition. In a local

news broadcast just this week one of their representatives was quoted as

saying..."it has to be in somebody's backyard."

If they will not honor their word in this one instance, on what

basis can we trust them? How do we know what the plant will look like

or produce or how long it will operate?

There is a wide credibility gap between their "word" and their

actions. All the more reason to oppose this project.

Citizens in Crescent Springs, Crestview Hills, Erlanger, Edgewood

and Elsmere will all be adversely affected by the building of this

plant. Now is the time to stop this intrusion. Flood Cinergy with your

comments of opposition towards this plant.

If you remain silent, the price you pay will be much higher than

even your monthly energy bills.

Sincerely,

Brent Aubrey

3090 Hulbert Avenue

Erlanger, KY. 41018

(day)513-872-2173

(night)859-727-1363

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52. Apr 12 1:54pm from Kathy Lang Citizen CVH to Mattingly, Ducks, and CVH

FYI...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kathy Lang" <kmlang@peoplepc.com>

To: <Robert.Logan@mail.state.ky.us>

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: Proposed Cinergy Power Plant

> thanks for the follow-up....How was the public hearing publized..

> ..I have gotten over 200 signatures on a petition that will be sent to the

> Governor and also Cinergy...Majority of the 200 citizens of Crestview

Hills

> had no idea this powerplant was planned and being reviewed, finalized,

etc..

> ....Its great the we live in America where we will also have voter power,

> and we will also act accordingly as elections are very well publized...

> Is the application from Cinergy available for citizens to review, if so I

> would appreciate a copy...

> Happy Easter to you and your family...

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <Robert.Logan@mail.state.ky.us>

> To: <kmlang@peoplepc.com>

> Cc: <Donna.Adcock@mail.state.ky.us>; <James.Bickford@mail.state.ky.us>

> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:01 PM

> Subject: Proposed Cinergy Power Plant

> > April 12,

> > 2001

> >

> > Dear Kathy Lang :

> >

> > Thank you for your recent letter to Secretary Bickford providing

> > comments on the proposal by Cinergy to construct two gas-fired turbines

> > Erlanger. The official public comment period on this proposal is

closed.

> > However, the Division for Air Quality is still reviewing the many

comments

> > received, including several like yours which were more recently

submitted.

> > The Division will take your concerns into consideration as it makes a

> final

> > decision in this matter.

> >

> > As you probably know, a public hearing was held at Dixie Heights

> > High School on March 5. A number of public concerns were raised and the

> > Division continues to evaluate those comments. When a final decision is

> > made, the Division will provide information to local media in your area.

> >

> > If you have any questions, please contact Mr. Donald O. Newell, the

> > supervisor in charge of reviewing this permit, by calling 502-573-3382.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Robert W. Logan

> > Commissioner

> >

> > RWL/JEH/drw

> >

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53. Apr 13 2:57pm from Erlanger Citizen Aubrey to DaveN@communitypress.com

Dear Editor,

If accuracy is a good gold standard for reporters and editors, the

recent editorial by Juli Hale earned only iron pyrite (fool's gold).

She either does not understand the meaning of "fair" or she ignored

the facts in regards to Cinergy's actions pertaining to the proposed

power plant.

Either error produces a substandard performance in the newspaper

business. And that is what she gave her readers in her April 12th

editorial.

Cinergy has been clever. They have been effective. They have been

persuasive. But they have also been dishonest. They have

misrepresented the facts and their true intentions.

One must truly "Clintonize" the definition of "fair" to apply it to

the activity of the Cinergy reps in this matter. Fair, accurate, and

truthful are exactly what they have not been.

Cinergy was not being "fair" when they reported to the Kentucky

Cabinet for Natural Resources and Environmental Protection that the area

in which the power plant was being proposed was an industrial area. It

is not. There is the new Kenton County Library, the Baptist Village,

the Silverlake Recreation Center, Silverlake Park, high schools, middle

schools, elementary schools, and many homes surrounding the site.

Cinergy was not being "fair" when they reported to the same Cabinet

that there are no residents within 1000 feet of the proposed plant.

There are plenty of people whose homes are within that distance.

Cinergy was not being "fair" when its representatives canvassed my

neighborhood and told us the power generated would be used for our

energy needs. It is not. It will be sold for use in other states.

It appears to me that Ms. Hale was one of those people fooled by

Cinergy's tactics. She should not feel too badly because she was not

alone. So were we. That explains why the opposition started late into

this process. And why, as the truth is made known to people, it is

growing rapidly.

So, Ms. Hale. Learn the facts. Then you will likely not only

report the protests, but join them as well.

Sincerely,

Brent Aubrey, 3090 Hulbert Avenue, Erlanger, Ky. 41018

email: aubrey@one.net

859-727-1363 (night) 513-872-2173 (day)

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54. Apr 14 2:59pm to Erlanger Council

Mayor Otto and Council Members of Erlanger

Speaking for citizens of the heart of residential Northern Kentucky, particularly affected by the proposed power plant, thank you for your support by way of Resolution 04-03-2001. As you know i have endeavored to pursue all information pertinent to making informed decisions affecting this vital community at the heart of Kenton County.

While motivated by the personal stake Deborah and i share having begun an enduring investment in this neighborhood, this motivation is inadequate for the challenge we face. Motivation comes more significantly from the increasing realization that here in Erlanger is an injustice uncovered that represents evil to which GOD through us must respond with all our heart and soul.

While awaiting the invitation for a gentle roundtable discussion, we offer this assessment, in this format, not as edict or assertion, but as suggestive starting point while asking for correction and clarification, as each of us may offer, to help us understand and articulate a strategy based on our new realization. Thank you for your review and comments.

The Union Light, Heat, & Power Company is a division of the Cincinnati Gas & Electric Company functioning as a monopoly service organization, regulated by the Kentucky Services Commission, serving the Northern Kentucky area. ULH&P/CG&E/Cinergy has built a solid local reputation of friendly, responsible service, along with a benevolent presence in our community. But more recently as deregulation rolls across America, Cinergy has sprouted a new division they call the Energy Merchant.

Just as Erlanger competes in a regional market of competitive cities, Cinergy competes in a primarily regional market referred to in their corporate Annual Report as ECAR, East Central Area Reliability control area, including: OH, MI, IN, KY, WV, and parts of PA, VA. Within this market, AEP (American Electric Power) dominates, but Cinergy leads the pack of 11 other power players in the region. While AEP dominates in total "Generation Ownership", Cinergy less dominantly leads in "Peaker Ownership". Just this year, they doubled their Peaker capacity by acquistion of 500MW plants each in TN and MS. So their current capacity is 2000MW. The proposed Erlanger plant adds incrementally to their quest for domination, but at what cost to Northern KY?

It is this unregulated Division, directed by Michael Cyrus

(who shared a frank 90-minute phone conversation with me on Thursday),

that has exploited this long-standing tradition of good will,

to adventurously exploit and defile the heart of residential Northern Kentucky

for the sake of incremental gains in the regional market (ECAR)

in which Cinergy is ambitiously dominating

in order to merge or sell out to the highest bidder,

leaving us with perhaps even foreign control

of our communities' most precious and vital asset, our air.

In the year (_____) ULH&P established the gas distribution hub within the City limits. This investment in real estate and capital improvement is naturally paralleled by investments in public/governmental relations we have all encountered. Subsequent to the emergence of the ever-merging Cinergy giant, this asset has been protected by allocation of resources by Cinergy toward Erlanger to facilitate goodwill, trust, and cooperation. These resources are professionals trained in public relations toward building trusting cooperation.

The electricity proposed to be generated at the expense of our local environment is for resale to the market outside of regulated Northern Kentucky usage. Is this how Cinergy portrayed the plant? Has Cinergy committed in writing to any constraints in use of this plant? The only constraint they acknowledge is based on the limitations defined in the permit: 250 tons/yr of carbon monoxide, each molecule of which permanently locks out the ability of a red blood cell to carry a molecule of oxygen, the main component of life. The life of a red blood cell is 90 days.

During the past decade, as Environmental Protection regulations began to limit the use of coal by power generation companies, these companies have increasingly turned to natural gas. Very few people authoritatively know just how much more natural gas is available from dwindling underground supplies, but recent, increasing consumption by power companies is having an impact on every consumer's heat bill, following the longstanding law of diminishing supply / increasing demand.

You must rise above the hypnosis of professional schmoozers and help us

Defend Our Community.

Thank you and GOD bless your effective action.

We elected you to have a SAY.

Respectfully serving,

deborah and john schmidt

463 Erlanger Rd

Erlanger, KY 41018

859 727-9999

Citizens for Healthy Environment Everywhere Residential

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55. Apr 17 12:57pm to all ?Power List

Greetings from CHEER !!

Citizens for Healthy Environment Everywhere Residential

A map is now available on the web at ncad.net ?Power.

Thank you for your continuing interest in defending residential quality in Northern Kentucky.

Sincerely,

deborah & john

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56. Apr 18 10:20 to CVH Mayor Meier

Greetings, Paul,

Thank you for a report on the meeting.

Sincerely,

john

727-9999

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57. Apr 18 10:22 to Erlanger Vice-Mayor Suedkampe

Greetings Patty,

Welcome back!

Thank you for a report on the meeting.

Sincerely,

john

727-9999

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58. Apr 18 10:23 to Riley Kinman

Hello Riley,

Thank you for a report on the meeting.

Respectfully,

john

859 727-9999

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59. Apr 18 10:26 from Groneck, CVH Citizen to Donald.Newell@mail.state.ky.us

Dear Sir:

I am a resident of Crestview Hills and this proposed plant is

approximately 2,000 ft from my home. In all good conscience, how can a

company who claims has nothing but the utmost concerns for the citizens build

this monstrosity next to homes, school, farms, etc., needless to say, the

innocent children which will be condemned with probable cancerous conditions?

I understood that Cinergy's spokeperson told the local governments that they

would back off this area if any opposition. THIS HAS BEEN DONE AND STILL

YOUR COMPANY IS PERSISTING ON. I realize that you are not alone or totally

responsible for the building of this plant, please listen to the people who

will be threatened with their well being over this matter. I feel

responsible for the future generation, where is the responsibility at

Cincergy?

thank you

Jeanette Groneck

jkducks238@aol.com

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60. Apr 18 10:42 to Representative Droud

Dear Representative Draud,

Your message at the Erlanger Council Meeting on April 17 was clear and effective.

On behalf of all of Northern Kentucky, thank you for your leadership.

Since discovery of this threatened imposition on March 5, I have worked on this matter over 100 hours, foregoing many active concerns and income, in particular $1000 per month x2 rental income, Hulbert Ave home development, and especially, critical business development at NCAD where we are delivering the next generation of sophisticated capability with Global Information Systems, primarily for better government, planning, and decision-making!

I uniquely know that based on Cinergy-owned mapping technology, there is no excuse for the misrepresentation that occurs on the application for DAQ Permit # V-00-053.

Thank you for calling to report on the result of your meeting with Governor Patton.

Respectfully,

john

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61. Apr 18 2:54pm from Erlanger Vice-Mayor Suedkampe

Hi John and Deborah,

All in all I felt the meeting went very well. Governor Patton was

extremely cordial, and seemed very interested in our plight. Each of us had

about 5 minutes to speak allowing him time to ask questions etc. Jon Draud

spoke first and introduced each of us. Paul Meyer went next, then Riley, and

myself.

Needless to say, in the short amount of time allotted us we had to

condense the subject, but He seemed to be very well informed prior to our

visit due to Luken and Draud's interest. Luken is meeting with Cinergy next

Monday. Paul Meyer is checking into the next Cinergy Board of Director's

meeting date so you all could gain a permit to march.

The Governor requested his people to look hard into the air quality issue as

you realize "THEY" are the one's who grant the permit, not him.

No matter what the outcome, John Draud is definitely going to approach

this issue from a political stand at the next assembly to make sure this

doesn't happen to another community. The Governor and his people said there

are no regulations governing distance from residents for a power plant.

Well, Buddy, I guess we'll wait until we see the outcome of Monday's meeting

with Luken. Hopefully Cinergy will back off.

Thanks again for all your hard work and dedication.

Patty

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62. Apr 18 3:07pm to Erlanger Suedkampe

Thank you, Patty!

We appreciate what this has cost you and others in time and "heart" pains. But looking past all the small stuff, i am encouraged by the renewed interest in the heart of Northern Kentucky regarding opportunities for planning a better world. We continue to support the planning activity at NKAPC.

Do you have any suggestions for follow-up?

Is there any more specific schedule for: THE DECISION from DAQ?

Thanks again for great service,

Sincerely,

deborah & john

727-9999

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63. Apr 18 4:39pm from CVH Mayor Meier

The meeting went very well. The governor had the same concerns as the air

quality people, as there is limited law that they can rely on to deny this

permit. His was concern about how N. Ky is now in attainment and this could put

us into non attainment. He as asked Sec. Bickford to look closer into how

granting the permit would affect the residents in the area. He agreed this is

not the place to put this type of unit. He may contact Cinergy, but no

commitment was made.

Paul Meier

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64. Apr 18 4:45pm to CVH Mayor Meier

Thank you, Paul,

Would you recommend any further action on my part?

I am requesting a meeting with Mayor Otto to encourage him to write to Michael Cyrus, Director of the Energy Merchant division of Cinergy. He is the one who will order withdrawal. Perhaps you will want to encourage other colleagues in other cities with whom you have rapport.

A direct, human plea from all Northern Kentucky City Mayors may be effective.

Thank you for your report.

Sincerely,

john

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65. Apr 18 4:53pm from Erlanger Suedkampe

Basically I think you all are getting through to many. My suggestion would

be to try and gain more supporters in Crestview and Erlanger and continue to

send your message very professionally.

My pleasure to help in any way, I've sure earned my money this term! LOL

Have a good day

Patty

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66. Apr 18 4:57pm to Erlanger Mayor Otto

Hello Mayor Otto,

Thank you for your effective communication during the Council meeting last evening.

We would like to meet with you, and perhaps Mr. Scheyer, as soon as possible, including my Mother and Deborah. The most pressing matter is the desirability of a letter you may want to write to Michael Cyrus, Director of the Energy Merchant Division of Cinergy, who has final authority to withdraw this proposal. Perhaps direct, human communication from all Northern Kentucky leaders, but especially you, may have an impact on this person. It appears Representative Draud is now alerted to the loop-hole we hope Cinergy may be restrained from exploiting. Thank you for your consideration of this urgent matter.

Sincerely,

john schmidt

deborah schmidt

Mrs. Mary (Dr. William R.) Schmidt

463 Erlanger Rd

454 Commonwealth Ave.

3126 Hulbert Ave

727-9999

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67. Apr 18 4:58pm from CVH Mayor Meier

FYI. 2nd time sent.

Please publish this letter to the editor. Any questions please call me

on 859 653-3529 or on 859 331-8006. Thanks.

April 14, 2001

RE: Erlanger pickets to stop Cinergy

Look at Cinergy Smoke Screen

In the article April 14th, Cinergy Spokesman Dave Woodburn continues to display a smokescreen to the public and the press even before the proposed plant is built. First, Mr. Woodburn identifies the fuel (natural gas) being used as the "cleanest-burning available". Yes, but only cleaner than coal and fuel oil. What he failed to say is that if this plant is built that residents of Erlanger, Crestview Hills and other communities will be receptors of nearly 432 TONS of additional pollution each summer. Second the Cinergy Spokesman identifies "the area is industrial", but this industrial zone does not allow power plants. Only because Cinergy is a public utility under the National Regulatory Commission (NRC) it becomes exempt. Third, their spokesman says "the noise issue is being address" but he failed to say because Cinergy is looking at purchasing an additional 10 acres of prime developable land so they can comply with the Erlanger Noise Ordinance. Taking 10 acres of land from a local property owner that could be development within the current zone requirements. Fourth this "peaking unit that would operate only during peak-demand periods" but Mr. Woodburn fail to say to sell electricity outside the Cincinnati area. These mini-power plants are only "mini" when you compare them to East Bend Power Plant, Boone County. I visited three sites last summer and none were near residential homes like the Erlanger site. They made our tour bus look like a MatchBox toy. OH! Did Cinergy say that two separate 45 Megawatt units are being proposed at the Erlanger site, must have been lost in the smoke?

Northern Kentucky will have to pay for the pollution, lower property values due to the greed of Dave Woodburn and others at Cinergy. The plant hasn't been approved and the smoke is already in front of all of Northern Kentucky. Cinergy does not want you to see, hear, or read all the facts.

Paul Meier – Mayor

Crestview Hills

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68. Apr 18 5:17pm from CVH Mayor Meier

The more letters we can send to Cinergy the better. I will see several mayors

this weekend and will update them on the status and see if they will continue to

send letters to Cinergy.

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69. Apr 19 8:26 to Riley Kinman, PhD.

Riley,

Have you received a reply from anyone, subsequent to your questions raised at the March 29 meeting concerning actual expected emissions of combustion products beyond CO and CO2 for actual operating conditions of:

over 80 degrees F and over 80% relative humidity?

What Cinergy provides is conditioned at 50 degrees F, with no indication of relative humidity (so i must presume 0%).

Thank you for your continuing pursuit.

Sincerely,

john

727-9999

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70. Apr 19 7:23pm from Citizen Smitson to Mr. Hornback

dear mr hornback -- as a voting citizen of northern kentucky i want to

express my opposition to the location of the cinergy power pllant on kenton

lands road -- please look elsewhere for the construction of this plant --

were citizens in this area aware of this proposal you would realize how

strongly the community would be -- please allow the ctizens to be a part of

his decision and listen to our concers -- thank you -- edie smitson

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